Elisabetta Magro (Terror in Venice F39)
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Elisabetta Magro (Terror in Venice F39)
On va faire un petit jeu de gamedesign buggé. Comment faire pour utiliser indéfiniment la Response de Elisabetta sans jamais mettre de marqueur de succès sur sa carte ?
•Elisabetta Magro, High Servant of the Order
Character - Conspirator. Lodge.
Cost 3 / Skill 4 / Icons
Fated 4.
If there is a conspiracy card in play Elisabetta Magro gains, "Response: After a player succeeds at a story, each player chooses a character he controls committed to that story and returns it to its owner's hand, if able. Then, place a success token on Elisabetta Magro."
Terror in Venice F39 / Illustrator Sebastian Giacobino
•Elisabetta Magro, High Servant of the Order
Character - Conspirator. Lodge.
Cost 3 / Skill 4 / Icons
Fated 4.
If there is a conspiracy card in play Elisabetta Magro gains, "Response: After a player succeeds at a story, each player chooses a character he controls committed to that story and returns it to its owner's hand, if able. Then, place a success token on Elisabetta Magro."
Terror in Venice F39 / Illustrator Sebastian Giacobino
Re: Elisabetta Magro (Terror in Venice F39)
autre que la bouncer elle meme?
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Re: Elisabetta Magro (Terror in Venice F39)
Je suis pas sur mais si tu utilises sa réponse sur une histoire ou tu n'a pas de persos, ton adversaire doit remonter un perso, toi tu ne peux pas mais c'est pas grave car c'est "if able".
En revanche le "Then" ne s'applique pas car la condition précédente n'a pas été remplie complétement...
J'ai bon
En revanche le "Then" ne s'applique pas car la condition précédente n'a pas été remplie complétement...
J'ai bon
Mousssine- Erudit dans l'Occulte
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Re: Elisabetta Magro (Terror in Venice F39)
Oui c'est ça et c'est illustré par le point 2.3 de la faq. Il suffit de n'avoir aucun de tes persos en défense pour bouncer un perso adverse dans chaque histoire. L'effet 'then' de Elisabetta ne se déclenche pas.
(2.3) “If Able”
If the card designates multiple cards or
players, the effect seeks to resolve on
each individual card or player. Most
of the time, these affects also include
the words “if able,” which means if the
effect cannot resolve on an individual
card or player, that does not prevent the
effect from resolving on other cards or
players.
For example: Initiate of Huang Hun
(CotJE F40) reads: “Response: After
Initiate of Huang Hun enters play,
each player returns a character he
controls to its owner’s hand, if able.”
This response seeks to resolve on each
player; if one player has no characters
in play (and is therefore not affected by
the response) each of his opponents can
still be affected.
If a “Then” effect follows the “if able”
effect, all designated cards and players
must have had the effect successfully
resolve in order for the “Then” effect to
resolve.
For example, Darrin’s opponent Tommy
has Feral Elder Thing (Revelations
F78) in play with the text, “At the
beginning of your turn, each player
chooses and discards 2 cards from his
hand, if able. Then, each player draws
1 card.” When Tommy’s turn begins
Darrin has 3 cards in hand and Tommy
has 1. Darrin choose and discard 2
cards, but Tommy is unable to choose
2 cards to discard. Since both players
were unable to discard 2 cards, neither
player is able to draw a card.
(2.3) “If Able”
If the card designates multiple cards or
players, the effect seeks to resolve on
each individual card or player. Most
of the time, these affects also include
the words “if able,” which means if the
effect cannot resolve on an individual
card or player, that does not prevent the
effect from resolving on other cards or
players.
For example: Initiate of Huang Hun
(CotJE F40) reads: “Response: After
Initiate of Huang Hun enters play,
each player returns a character he
controls to its owner’s hand, if able.”
This response seeks to resolve on each
player; if one player has no characters
in play (and is therefore not affected by
the response) each of his opponents can
still be affected.
If a “Then” effect follows the “if able”
effect, all designated cards and players
must have had the effect successfully
resolve in order for the “Then” effect to
resolve.
For example, Darrin’s opponent Tommy
has Feral Elder Thing (Revelations
F78) in play with the text, “At the
beginning of your turn, each player
chooses and discards 2 cards from his
hand, if able. Then, each player draws
1 card.” When Tommy’s turn begins
Darrin has 3 cards in hand and Tommy
has 1. Darrin choose and discard 2
cards, but Tommy is unable to choose
2 cards to discard. Since both players
were unable to discard 2 cards, neither
player is able to draw a card.
Re: Elisabetta Magro (Terror in Venice F39)
Ils sont un peu cons quand même... pourquoi avoir mis le "if able"?!
Mousssine- Erudit dans l'Occulte
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Re: Elisabetta Magro (Terror in Venice F39)
Parce qu'ils ne savent pas ce que ça veut dire.
mzi- Champion des Belges 2011
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